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Posted on 03-23-16, 08:02 pm (rev. 1 by LeftyGreenMario on 03-23-16, 08:03 pm)

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Well, you sound like one, but don't subscribe yourself to labels (like agreeing with whatever they say, although I disagree with pretty much everything they say because... I can explain for each point). Yeah, I believe they do kill doctors, there's an entire Wikipedia article on anti-abortion violence. Just because you and them don't support abortion doesn't mean you should condone their actions. Regardless of their beliefs, it's pretty disgusting.

Also, "socalism" is a pretty broad label. You can't just characterize it as "evil" and related to "communism" because that's like stereotyping.
Posted on 03-23-16, 08:27 pm (rev. 1 by Green Toad on 03-23-16, 08:31 pm)

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Fundamentalism is practically the definition of close-mindedness. In my opinion, that is dangerous to one's ability to think for oneself, and also for the ability to accept the beliefs of others.

Take care not to forego individuality or perspective for fundamentalism.


I'd debate the more focal point of the topic at hand, but I'm not very well-versed on the subject so I will just keep to expressing my views.
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Posted on 03-23-16, 08:39 pm (rev. 1 by LeftyGreenMario on 03-23-16, 08:40 pm)

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Yeah, I think fundamentalism is dangerous to society even. It's pretty much like brainwashing and it doesn't even benefit religion because I doubt even the original authors of the Bible intended for their work to be taken literally.

Well, it's fine to express your views, but if I disagree with them, I will, but I'll try not making it personal unless it makes me mad, like homophobia, xenophobia, or Islamophobia.
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Religion as a whole, regardless if its Christianity, Islam or something else, has been used as a curtain to hide more than enough wars, terror, and other non-justifiable inhumane actions behind.

Everyone should believe whatever the bloody hell they want and stop trying to force it onto others. Be open to others' beliefs as well, respect them, but don't try to shove your own ideologies down their throats. You can't prove that there is a god, nor can you prove what hir motives are, if you think ze has any, so why should anyone be forced to follow an ideology just because it's written in a fancy over 1000 years old book?

If religion wasn't an organization but rather a personal matter, I think a lot of these wars, terrorist actions, etc. wouldn't have happened the way they did.
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I'm a christian, yet I ain't calling out other religions
not all people are like our ancesters, sheesh.

Obama WAS a bad president. He handles money as well as Terrell Owens (football player, he went bankrupt.) More debt then anyone else. And you call Reagan the problem? please, reagan was easily the greatest president.

I don't dislike democrats/liberals, I just simply think their/your political views are wrong in some/many cases.

We are all entitled to our opinions, so I don't dislike anyone for political/religious views. And I don't think it is right to judge people for that.
Anyway, back to the Brussels Terrorist attack.

This is what happens when your border control is about as good as the U.S border crisis. Greece, PLEASE stop letting in so many people.

If you want the fix the refugee crisis, then go to syria and fucking kill ISIS

right now, europe and america are too scared to do it. At least russia seems to care about removing ISIS..
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Posted on 03-23-16, 08:58 pm (rev. 5 by LeftyGreenMario on 03-23-16, 09:16 pm)

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There also seems to be a huge distrust in atheists, even more so than Muslims. And of course, atheists do get harassed or even convicted for their beliefs. An atheist myself, I don't think we even need religion nowadays when we can function very well as a secular society. Morals aren't from religion, you can explain most of them in biological terms from evolution. In my opinion, raising children in a secular household works pretty well, and I think it's best for the children to adopt their own religion rather than have parents teach them an ideology at such a young and malleable age.

Obama WAS a bad president. He handles money as well as Terrell Owens (football player, he went bankrupt.) More debt then anyone else. And you call Reagan the problem? please, reagan was easily the greatest president.

"More debt" then[sic] anyone else. You're aware that Obama inherited this debt and spending from Bush Jr. and the other presidents, right? Sure, his spending increased a bit, but it's nowhere near as reckless as you make it out to be. How is Reagan "easily" the greatest president? I've already criticized him A LOT for what he's done and the best comeback I've gotten so far is "OMG how dare you call Reagan "bad" he is so awesome even though he tripled the national debt and he shrank the government and made it easier for banks to go reckless and bankrupt" blah blah blah. Reagan is a bad president. He used "trickle-down" economics and tax cuts for the rich which apparently "trickles to the working class", which is proven to be utter horse-shit unless you're rich. He even raised taxes a bit. He ignored the AIDS outbreak. He has cut Medicaid, food stamps, federal education programs, and the EPA, which doesn't really help anyone.

On the other hand, he has done things a lot of Republicans wouldn't have liked today such as raising taxes when prompted, funding reparations for Japanese Americans, not cut Social Security, supporting gun control, ending torture, giving amnesty to millions of undocumented immigrants, starting a healthcare system in California, and supporting separation of church and state.

I don't dislike democrats/liberals, I just simply think their/your political views are wrong in some/many cases.

We are all entitled to our opinions, so I don't dislike anyone for political/religious views. And I don't think it is right to judge people for that.
I disagree with most of conservatives' beliefs and I have my reasons too. I explained why, why don't you do the same?

Anyway, back to the Brussels Terrorist attack.


This is what happens when your border control is about as good as the U.S border crisis. Greece, PLEASE stop letting in so many people.

If you want the fix the refugee crisis, then go to syria and fucking kill ISIS

right now, europe and america are too scared to do it. At least russia seems to care about removing ISIS..
I'm not educated in this, but whatever you're advocating is probably way too simplistic for a likely extremely complex situation and it'll probably end up as a disaster is probably why Europe and America are "too scared to do it" not to mention, both have a lot of foreign-policy issues on their own.
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There also seems to be a huge distrust in atheists, even more so than Muslims.
because the typical stereotype of atheists is that they're raging anti-theists who go around jamming their finger into people's chest saying "YOUR RELIGION IS WRONG AND YOU'RE A MORON FOR BELIEVING IN IT"

which, like all stereotypes, is unfortunately re-enforced by hollywood

Morals aren't from religion
i believe religion helps re-enforce morals, like the taboos against murder or theft or adultry

that could just be me tho
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Posted on 03-24-16, 05:58 pm

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Secular government does this too. You simply don't need religion to guide you, especially in the end, if your motivation is supported only by your desire to be treated well in the afterlife, not because you feel kind and altruistic.
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Maybe we shouldn't be talking about religion...?
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And why is that? It is a perfectly sane debate.

Morals aren't from religion
i believe religion helps re-enforce morals, like the taboos against murder or theft or adultry

that could just be me tho
Unfortunately, religion can also reinforce outdated views, such as aforementioned abortion issues.

Overall, morals are independent of religion. And, every major belief will always have its bigots.
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Posted on 03-25-16, 02:58 pm (rev. 2 by Spidey on 03-25-16, 03:00 pm)

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sh kids

I'm a christian, yet I ain't calling out other religions
not all people are like our ancesters, sheesh.

Obama WAS a bad president. He handles money as well as Terrell Owens (football player, he went bankrupt.) More debt then anyone else. And you call Reagan the problem? please, reagan was easily the greatest president.

I don't dislike democrats/liberals, I just simply think their/your political views are wrong in some/many cases.

We are all entitled to our opinions, so I don't dislike anyone for political/religious views. And I don't think it is right to judge people for that.
Anyway, back to the Brussels Terrorist attack.

This is what happens when your border control is about as good as the U.S border crisis. Greece, PLEASE stop letting in so many people.

If you want the fix the refugee crisis, then go to syria and fucking kill ISIS

right now, europe and america are too scared to do it. At least russia seems to care about removing ISIS..
I agree with you about reagan.
SOCIALISM HAS FAILED IN THE USA BEFORE!!!!
The colonies had it, and they almost starved everyone.
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Posted on 03-25-16, 06:25 pm (rev. 1 by LeftyGreenMario on 03-25-16, 06:29 pm)

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Maybe we shouldn't be talking about religion...?
Yes, we should criticize the hell out of it.

I agree with you about reagan.
SOCIALISM HAS FAILED IN THE USA BEFORE!!!!
The colonies had it, and they almost starved everyone.
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Ok, what the hell are you talking about? What "colonies"? Why are you always so vague (which makes you sound ignorant) about everything you declare? I've looked through the Wikipedia article on the history of socialism and I don't see any colonies. This is also the first time where I've heard that "socialism in colonies starved everyone". England created colonies in the early U.S. privately by minor nobles, religious dissidents, and later, merchants. The British government, however, had a fairly hands-off approach to how colonies developed in the early U.S., so we have a diverse array of colonies, which doesn't help as your argument is terribly vague. Initial colonies failed for a variety of reasons: lack of financing and harsh climate, and probably hostile Native Americans. I don't see any "socialism" unless you're stretching it really hard. For example, initially, the settlers in Virginia came there to trade with the native population. The merchants were exclusively male traders (no women or farmers, predict how that'll turn out). They arrived for a variety of reasons. They then heavily struggled in Jamestown because of its swampy environment, lack of clean water, refusal to plant crops, and a bunch of diseases, and fatality rates remained high. If that's the colony you're talking about, you're just wrong about "socialism failed our colonies".

And besides, in a lot of colonies, property ownership and landlords are a thing, so that's not really socialism, and it's also been used as a qualification for voting in some colonies before eventually getting removed. Economically, the colonies went through a mercantile system where colonies become mostly dependent on the British Empire for trade and are not allowed to trade with other Empires.
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Posted on 03-25-16, 08:19 pm (rev. 1 by Will on 03-25-16, 08:19 pm)

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Socialism hasn't been in any colonies I know of, unless the German's during WWII called the land they claimed 'colonies', which, they didn't.

The reason the colonies failed is when people don't get what they want, they will destroy you unless you give them what they want. However, using America as an example, Britain took "No taxation without representation" as seriously as a 'delet this' meme. But, of course, don't doubt the power of the colony that has more land than your mainland.

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Posted on 03-25-16, 08:42 pm

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REFUSAL TO PLANT CROPS, They didnt all work, but expected others to share food.They didn't get houses built either.
lol

You really think "sharing" caused these colonists to starve.

Here's at least the Wikipedia article of it. I've also reviewed my AP History Textbook

Maybe I'll quote for you.

The colonists, the first group of whom had originally arrived at Jamestown on May 14, 1607, had never planned to grow all of their own food. Their plans depended upon trade with the local Powhatan to supply them with food between the arrivals of periodic supply ships from England.

Further explained below.

The initial small group of 104 men and boys chose the location because it was favorable for defensive purposes, but it offered poor hunting prospects and a shortage of drinking water. Although they did some farming, few of the original settlers were accustomed to manual labor or familiar with farming. Hunting on the island was poor, and they quickly exhausted the supply of small game. The colonists were largely dependent upon trade with the Native Americans and periodic supply ships from England for their food.

After dropping off the settlers, and returning to England, Christopher Newport returned to Jamestown again in January 1608 from England with what was called the "First Supply" and about 100 new settlers. Upon his return, he found that the effects of the lack of planning and lack of skills amongst the original colonists had combined with Powhatan attacks in reducing the original settlement to only thirty-eight survivors.

Even if "sharing" is bad, what does this exactly have to do with the complex economic and social ideology of socialism aside from that they both "share"?

The reason the colonies failed is when people don't get what they want, they will destroy you unless you give them what they want.

What are you talking about? Who is "you"? Colonies can fail for various reasons: being ill-equipped, harsh weather, Native American violence, bad management, poor financing, no women, political instability, competition by other empires, and a lot of other things. It's not just "people destroy things if they don't get what they want". I can't imagine people in Roanoke Island destroying its British Empire ("you", I'm guessing) because they're starving and are dying from diseases.
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Posted on 03-26-16, 01:53 pm

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you know you could have posted that in the Mario Maker thread, but okay
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I think he posted his mario maker level here, because I think the mario maker thread was old and he didn't necessarily wanted to bump it (because he feels that he'll get into trouble w/ the staff).


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Posted on 03-26-16, 02:08 pm

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I think he posted his mario maker level here, because I think the mario maker thread was old and he didn't necessarily wanted to bump it (because he feels that he'll get into trouble w/ the staff).

It wasn't that old; I assume the oldest a thread can go without an 'Old' status is around a month so yea
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is this some sort of country-talk thread now of some sort? no rvl town square has been like a country-talk thread.
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